[quote]You guys can be skeptical and that one guy can trash me, but that's what the board is pushing first to the new president. You don't think they're trying to get an athletics-minded president? My facts are facts. Plus, I was throwing the 17 million out, my concern for the move to I-A nor the change in inflation wasn't a big deal. I'll wait for the new report.
Stude (I prefer to think of you as a student, rather than as a male horse in heat), I apologize if some of us come across as being too negative. There is a fine line between skepticism and cynicism, and sometimes I know I have landed on the wrong side of that line.
Also, be aware that some of us have been waiting and hoping for the return of UTA football since Nedderman dropped the bomb back in 1985. We have had sporadic and periodic attempts by student leaders, ex-lettermen, Arlington community leaders and even professors and school officials to bring this about, but we have been repeatedly bitterly disappointed.
Undoubtedly, the most serious bid for football was led by Student Congress President Josh Warren in 2004. Not only did he get the referendum (an event that got greater participation by students than any other one day vote held in the history of UTA), but he led a movement that was serious enough that Spaniolo could not ignore it, and the President agreed to commission the Neinas Study. http://www.uta.edu/sportsexpansion/.
According to the study, a major component of start-up expenses for athletics expansion involved construction or upgrading of facilities. The construction of College Park Center and the extensive improvements of the Clay Gould Baseball Stadium facilities have to some degree satisfied facilities requirements, as well as freeing up space at Maverick Stadium that was formerly occupied by the Athletics Department staff offices.
From the executive summary of the Neinas report, I see that $17 million was at the upper range of expenses, and these were not startup expenses, but a five year projection of cost.
[quote]In conclusion, the total cost for expanding the UTA athletic program to include football, women’s soccer and women’s golf for a five year period is estimated to range from $13,780,000 to $17,455,000, depending upon the type of facilities constructed to meet the needs of sports expansion and not including inflationary increases.
I don't want to make this post too long, but from reading the Neinas report, I come to the conclusion that money is not a huge challenge. Far from being an inflation-adjusted $17 million startup, it boils down to perhaps $1 or $2 million just to get the ball rolling. President Spaniolo has spent more on discretionary projects, such as building a faculty lounge or having the bleachers ripped out of Texas Hall. Here are some details. http://www.uta.edu/sportsexpansion/sports_expansion.pdf
[quote]The 17 million you cited was the minimum cited in the Nienas report at the beginning of the decade. There are two problems with that. The first is inflation. The $17 million it would cost in 2003 dollars would cost $21.2 million today. Second, the report then was for UTA to sport a 1-AA program. With the move to the WAC and then the SBC, and some of the moves the have made otherwise, suggest a desire for 1-A. That ups the ante right there.
Actually, $17 million was closer to the maximum cited in the Nienas report in 2005. Brother Fo is another dyed-in-the-wool Maverick who bleeds blue, yet sometimes he is a bit argumentative. It will indeed cost more to compete in FCS, but that increased expense will not really kick in until years 5 and 6. UTA's growth in enrollment has been over 8,000 since the Nienas report, almost 30%, which would tend to mitigate the effects of inflation. Another factor would be the potential increase of the proposed student fee from a paltry $2 per semester hour. I mean really - if UNT could get their students to approve a $10 per hour increase to pay for their new stadium, I think it would not be unreasonable to ask for $5 per hour at UTA.
All of which is to say I'm optimistic, if we can get the right new President. I hope your good news pans out.